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February 21, 2016 at 5:10 pm #101
I was doing some reading on fetters-setters blog and was wondering if what he states here is true:
Today we hear mainly about Ryman’s very rigid selection process in which he used the very best English Setters available which he felt would mix well with his DeCoverly base from Bench and Field lines ~ which he further evaluated from within “five basic groups based on multiple criteria” to get a mid-line type of setter which met his ideals..
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That is a very easy and interesting statement to make. However when this statement is referenced to setters from English Setter bloodlines alone, it is drifting far from the truth of the actual breeding program George Ryman employed, especially in its early stages..’
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The “five basic groups based on multiple criteria” in fact refers to the off-spring from the breedings of:. .
.………. (1) English Setters to Gordon Setters;
………. (2) English Setters bred to Irish Setters;
………. (3) English Setters bred to a combination of
sssssssssssIrish and Gordon bloodlines;
………. (4) English Setters bred to the DeCoverly base;
………. (5) and English Setters bred to the Decoverly/Llewellin
…………….combination of bloodlines..
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Of the resultant off-spring from these early “experimental breedings,” Ryman selected puppies which were more in-line in appearance with the English Setter breed (and his own ideals) ~ and destroyed those puppies which strongly favored the Irish, Gordon and DeCoverly/Llewellin crosses (which did not resemble his set standard of the English Setter as a whole, and again, at a time prior to his larger kennel operation at Shohola Falls, Pennsylvania).
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So George Ryman’s rigid breeding program was not in fact a program which used just the English Setter bloodlines. .
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February 21, 2016 at 5:35 pm #173
It can’t be proved one way or another, but there is no evidence to support any of this. There are other things on that blog that can be proved wrong through the records though, and I wouldn’t recommend the site as a source of information.
Lisa
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February 21, 2016 at 11:58 pm #174
Ditto what Lisa said.
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